Black Chantry: Fifth Edition

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Auch wenn es sicherlich einigen unter den Nägeln brennt, das neue Set zu besitzen/spielen, finde ich es dennoch gut, dass man sich Zeit lässt, um am Ende mit einem tollen und durchdachten Produkt zu überzeugen. Lediglich die Tokens und das Edge „enttäuschen“ mich ein wenig.


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macready wrote: 26 Apr 2020, 18:01 Auch wenn es sicherlich einigen unter den Nägeln brennt, das neue Set zu besitzen/spielen, finde ich es dennoch gut, dass man sich Zeit lässt, um am Ende mit einem tollen und durchdachten Produkt zu überzeugen. Lediglich die Tokens und das Edge „enttäuschen“ mich ein wenig.
Danke für den Hinweis auf die Tokens und das Edge. Ich dachte, das wären "Spielfelder" ... :roll: :lol:
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Ich denke das ist an dieser Stelle ein Versuch die Kosten zu reduzieren, was bei einem derart umfangreichen Paket denke ich sinnvoll ist um die Hürde für den Einstieg so niedrig wie möglich zu halten.
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Solange es anstständiger SPielbrett Karton ist, sind Karton Egdes und Pool absolut ok.
wenn ich mir das set hole,, öchte ich nicht ausschleissen diese Tokens sogar halbwegs alngfristig zu verwenden, weil die einfach viel wenigfer platz wegnehmen als meine aktuellen.
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Weitere kleine Informationen von Henrik in Diskussionen auf Facebook:
Are these decks new? (As in, not just rehashed precons?)
Henrik Klippström The decks is new yes. Many new crypt cards, a few new library cards too.
Finally the blood counters are made of cardboard, acrylic or what material?
Henrik Klippström Pure cardboard!
No Brujah :(
Henrik Klippström The Brujah will appear in anarch-themed product/products later. Clan Brujah have officially left the Camarilla in the VTM lore.
Baba Yaga will be printed ?
Henrik Klippström Nope. Not in this set at least!
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Weitere kleine Informationen von Henrik in Diskussionen auf Facebook:
Ouu, man, are that paper pool counters!? I really appreciate the effort, but will these decks be available in old classic and cheaper packaging (without a hard box, rulebook and meaningless paper counters)?
Henrik Klippström We avoid glass beads to keep down the weight and cost for customer. I hope you will understand. Decks will maybe be sold separate, but later and at a higher price per deck than if you buy the big box.
I absolutely understand. I also understand that this targets the beginners. But I don't know, it's better that there are no counters than these paper ones. I have played Android Netrunner quite a lot with the paper counters and it is really pain in the ass. It's definitely even worse for VTES.
Henrik Klippström The game needs counters. Countless people have been asking for a box with everything you need to play the game. Here it is! You, as an experienced player, are of course free to use whatever counters you prefer instead of these ones :) I personally love blood red glass beads!
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Wenig neues im jüngsten VEKN-Newsletter - wir sind erkennbar auf der Zielgeraden....

http://www.vekn.net/2-uncategorised/476 ... april-2020
Some noticed on the Bolesław Gutowski promo card that the clan symbol for the Malkavians was slightly different. What's up with that?

Ben Peal, product director: Astute observation! The symbols for the Camarilla clans got a facelift in 5th Edition Vampire: the Masquerade. VTES is derived from that source material, so any new crypt cards we make for those clans will accordingly have the new clan symbols. The new symbols don't represent new clans – it's just like the changes to the clan symbols for Tzimisce and Lasombra way back between the Sabbat and Sabbat War expansions. Note that for reprints of the White Wolf-era cards we'll have available via print-on-demand, we'll be using the original clan symbols so that the look of those cards remains consistent with the cards you already own. For library cards, anything printed (or re-printed) in brand-new products based on the V5 source material (like the upcoming V5 set) will use the new clan symbols.
Work on Fifth Edition continues, now mainly marketing preparation and the last touches on the new rulebook. The actual card and deck design is finished and both cards and deck lists will be spoiled very soon.
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Es gibt die erste Deckliste (die allerdings nur einen der neuen Vampire komplett darstellt):
https://www.blackchantry.com/products/c ... malkavian/
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Die Nosferatu ziehen nach:

https://www.blackchantry.com/products/c ... nosferatu/

Diesmal gibt es (außer den neuen Vampiren) auch vier verschiedene neue Library-Karten...
:arrow: 4 Creeping Sabotage (Action)
:arrow: 8 Roundhouse (Combat)
:arrow: 4 Protected District (Reaction)
:arrow: 4 The Warrens (Reaction)
Ich bin gespannt....

Interessante Rares, die im Deck mit drin sind:
:arrow: 1 The Labyrinth
:arrow: 1 Smiling Jack, the Anarch
:arrow: 1 Warsaw Station
:arrow: 2 Preternatural Strength :!: :!:
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Ein neuer Tag, ein neues Deck... :wink:

Toreador: https://www.blackchantry.com/products/c ... -toreador/

Wieder neun verschiedene neue Vampire, allerdings keine neuen Library-Karten.
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Wohl kaum noch überraschend: Tremere...

https://www.blackchantry.com/products/c ... n-tremere/

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Und Tremere bringen zwei Karten mit, die ich schon länger suche: Magic Of The Smith :D
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macready wrote: 05 May 2020, 21:27 Und Tremere bringen zwei Karten mit, die ich schon länger suche: Magic Of The Smith :D
Es war auch an der Zeit ... 8) :D :mrgreen:
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Da ich feststellen möchte (wie bei jedem neuen Set), wie viel ich von dem neuen Set kaufen würde, habe ich eine Aufstellung gemacht über die in einem Set enthaltenen Karten.
Die kann ich natürlich teilen. :-)

Crypt-Karten habe ich nicht erfasst hier, denn die sind alle neu in dem Set.

Master
1 Academic Hunting Ground
1 Anarch Troublemaker
1 Arcane Library
1 Art Museum
1 Asylum Hunting Ground
1 Barrens, The
7 Blood Doll
1 Chantry
1 Creepshow Casino
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Elder Library
1 Elysium: The Palace of Versailles
1 Fame
1 Guardian Angel
1 Haven Uncovered
1 Information Highway
1 The Labyrinth
2 Life in the City
2 Misdirection
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Rebel
1 Slum Hunting Ground
1 Smiling Jack, the Anarch
1 Society Hunting Ground
4 Toreador Grand Ball
1 Uptown Hunting Ground
1 Ventrue Headquarters
8 Vessel
6 Villein
1 Visit From the Capuchin
1 Warsaw Station
1 Wasserschloss Anif, Austria
4 Wider View

Action
4 Creeping Sabotage
6 Deep Song
14 Enchant Kindred
24 Govern the Unaligned
4 Intimidation
2 Magic of the Smith
2 Preternatural Strength
4 Revelations

Political Action
1 Ancilla Empowerment
4 Consanguineous Boon
15 Kine Resources Contested
9 Parity Shift
1 Toreador Justicar

Ally
2 Underbridge Stray

Retainer
2 Murder of Crows
2 Raven Spy

Equipment
1 .44 Magnum
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Kevlar Vest
1 Sport Bike

Action Modifier
2 Aire of Elation
8 Bewitching Oration
10 Bonding
2 Change of Target
4 Cloak the Gathering
8 Conditioning
1 Daring the Dawn
4 Faceless Night
6 Freak Drive
2 Foreshadowing Destruction
8 Lost in Crowds
6 Mirror Walk
4 Perfect Paragon
4 Spying Mission
8 Voter Captivation

Combo
8 Resist Earth’s Grasp
4 Scalpel Tongue
4 Swallowed by the Night

Combat
4 Apportation
2 Carrion Crows
4 Hidden Strength
4 Immortal Grapple
12 Majesty
8 Roundhouse
4 Taste of Vitae
10 Theft of Vitae

Reaction
4 Cat’s Guidance
15 Deflection
11 Eyes of Argus
4 Guard Dogs
4 Instinctive Reaction
14 On the Qui Vive
2 Precognition
4 Protected District
4 Second Tradition: Domain
2 The Spirit’s Touch
9 Telepathic Misdirection
4 Wake with Evening’s Freshness
4 The Warrens
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