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Porphyrion's advantage

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It's been a while since I tried to design a deck. This could be fun... or just awful.

Deck Name : Porphyrion's advantage
Description :
What do Setites and Nosferatu antitribu have in common?
FORTITUDE! :)
(just don't mention the chimerstry)

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 9 average: 5.91667
3x Porphyrion (9) :CHI: :OBF: :PRE: :SER: :for: Follower of Set (group 5)
1x Pentweret (9) :OBF: :PRE: :SER: :aus: :for: :obe: Follower of Set (group 5)
1x Ogwon (7) :OBF: :PRE: :SER: :for: Follower of Set (group 5)
1x Abdelsobek (5) :for: :nec: :obf: :pre: :ser: Follower of Set (group 5)
1x Frank Litzpar (5) :OBF: :ani: :for: :pot: Nosferatu antitribu (group 4)
1x Skidmark (5) :FOR: :OBF: :aus: :pot: Nosferatu antitribu (group 4)
1x Aaron Bathurst (4) :for: :obf: :pot: Nosferatu antitribu (group 4)
1x Skulk (4) :OBF: :ani: Nosferatu antitribu (group 5)
1x Lubomira Hradok (3) :OBF: Nosferatu antitribu (group 5)
1x Old Neddacka (2) :obf: Nosferatu antitribu (group 4)


Library [80 cards]

Action [11]
2x Dream World
8x Enchant Kindred
1x Sensory Deprivation

Action Modifier [20]
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Elder Impersonation
2x Enkil Cog
2x Faceless Night
1x Forgotten Labyrinth
6x Freak Drive
2x Lost in Crowds
2x True Love's Face
2x Veil the Legions

Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Swallowed by the Night

Combat [7]
4x Unflinching Persistence
3x Zip Gun

Equipment [2]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Ivory Bow

Master [16]
5x Fortitude
1x Nosferatu Kingdom
1x Opium Den
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Realm of the Black Sun, The
1x Shanty Town Hunting Ground
1x Temple Hunting Ground
5x Using the Advantage

Reaction [20]
2x Army of Apparitions
2x Confusion of the Eye
2x Ecstasy
1x Eluding the Arms of Morpheus
2x On the Qui Vive
4x Ophidian Gaze
2x Scobax
2x Steadfastness
3x Wake with Evening's Freshness


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Apr 11 22:35:14 2015]

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Re: Porphyrion's advantage

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Hi Ed,

it would be much easier to comment on your deck if you gave us some clues or even a description of what your deck is supposed to do ... :wink:
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Hehe, yes I suppose that would help.

The idea was to quietly bloat with Porphyrion and build up an army of !Nos weenies who bleed for one (with stealth), to apply just a little bit of pressure without being in any way threatening so the prey gets used to ignoring the bleeds and assumes you will always bleed for one (or maybe 2 with Porph). Eventually drop an Enkil-cog to make "Using the Advantage" very strong, and wait for an opportunity to lunge with Dream World + Veil the Legions.

It's probably an awful concept. It was mainly an exercise to get myself thinking about the cards again.
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I think you can try a bit harder.
For example, take Seterpenre as star vampire, and give him FOR and DOM.
Now he can use both Govern the Unaligned and Enhant Kindred/Scounting Mission, and multi-act, AND bounce.
Mainstream your master card action a bit (but going for up to 5 Using the Advantage is a nice idea, I did'nt know that they stack ^^).
Etc.
Should work, if you don't sit close to a rush deck ... :D
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I see where you're going - govern is stronger than enchant... I guess keeping a mix of both is the best option, as EK pairs nicely with dream world and strengthens the multi-acting.

I think the deck really needs to use bleed reduction rather than bounce, because bouncing can't keep the edge (vital for Using the Advantage). So while I'd be sad to lose Porphyrion's perma +1 stealth and the ability to play Army of Apparitions, Seterpenre has AUS already which opens up some other possibilities instead. And I really do like that the star vamp immediately has superior FOR from the start, this way.

Here's a revised version, with Seterpenre - I also added some Eternals for crypt acceleration/pool gain and upped the freak drives.

Deck Name: Seterpenre's advantage
Author: Yorga
Description:
Bloat away with Seterpenre (who now has FOR/DOM), and build up an army of !Nos weenies who bleed for one to apply just a little bit of pressure without being threatening. Eventually drop an Enkil-cog to make "Using the Advantage" very strong, and wait for an opportunity to lunge with Dream World + Veil the Legions.

NB: 80 cards after Seterpenre's special
14 masters (plus 1 trifle)
14 actions (incl. equip)
14 stealth (incl. combo cards) + 4 block denial
14 untap (8 act. mod. + 6 reac.)
14 bleed reduction/intercept
9 'run away' (incl. combo cards)

Crypt (Capacity min=2 max=10 avg=6.46; 13 cards)
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1x Aaron Bathurst 4 for obf pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Abdelsobek 5 for nec obf pre ser Follower of Set:5
1x Frank Litzpar 5 ani for pot OBF !Nosferatu:4
1x Lubomira Hradok 3 OBF !Nosferatu:5
1x Ogwon 7 for OBF PRE SER Follower of Set:5
1x Old Neddacka 2 obf !Nosferatu:4
1x Pentweret 9 aus for obe OBF PRE SER Follower of Set:5
4x Seterpenre 10 AUS NEC OBF PRE SER Follower of Set:5
1x Skidmark 5 aus pot FOR OBF !Nosferatu:4
1x Skulk 4 ani OBF !Nosferatu:5

Library (84 cards)
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Master (19 cards, 1 trifle)
2x Dominate
4x Eternals of Sirius, The
3x Fortitude
1x Nosferatu Kingdom
1x Opium Den
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Shanty Town Hunting Ground
1x Temple Hunting Ground
4x Using the Advantage
1x Wider View

Action (12 cards)
2x Dream World
4x Enchant Kindred
4x Govern the Unaligned
2x Scouting Mission

Equipment (2 cards)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Ivory Bow

Action Modifier (22 cards)
1x Call of the Hungry Dead
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Elder Impersonation
2x Enkil Cog
1x Faceless Night
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
8x Freak Drive
2x Lost in Crowds
1x True Love's Face
2x Veil the Legions

Reaction (19 cards)
2x Confusion of the Eye
2x Ecstasy
1x Eluding the Arms of Morpheus
1x Eyes of Argus
2x On the Qui Vive
3x Ophidian Gaze
2x Scobax
2x Steadfastness
2x Telepathic Counter
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Combat (6 cards)
3x Unflinching Persistence
3x Zip Gun

Combo (4 cards)
1x Spectral Divination
3x Swallowed by the Night

Created with Secret Library v0.9.4c. (May 27, 2015 14:40:56)
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Re: Porphyrion's advantage

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In the first games, I would suggest an even more stream-lined version:

Turn (at least) the hunting grounds into additional Eternals of Sirius.
Maybe even the Nosferatu Kindgom and the third Fortitude skill card (and the Powerbase: Montreal, but this one for an additional Wider View).

Ivory Bow is nice, a second Heart of Nizchetus might be even nicer.

I don't trust one copy of True Love's Face and/or Call of the Hungry Dead and would turn these into additional Faceless Night (my favourite stealth card when multi-acting).

Reaction Package: Ophidian Gaze (from the PDF set "The Unaligned") together with Telepathic Counter reduces a bleed by 4. 8)
And 2 bounces definitely will help your game. ("Does he bounce at all? -- "I don't think so." -- "Bleed you for 3." -- "No block." -- "It's for 6." -- "To my prey.")

Combat: No Trace (or even Gemini's Mirror) could be an option and/or Fortitude "prevent all" cards.
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Streamlined version reduced from 84(80) to 75(71) cards by cutting the 14's down to 12's...

I totally forgot Powerbase: Zurich. That had to go in.

For the reactions I had been working on the assumption that diversity (as with stealth) would be the best option - especially as many of the support vamps can't play them. So I've dropped scobax and confusion (which isn't so useful for the weenies anyway) and kept the ecstasy.

I also replaced most "as if untapped" with "untap", as I don't intend to actually block all that much, so it should be more efficient.

Combat module was indeed rubbish. I've dumped the manoeuvres and the bow, and opted for FOR prevent instead. The alternative is to dump FOR entirely (except freak drive) and go with Behind You! + (more) Swallowed by the Night. This could also help reduce the support vamp capacities.

Finally, I've tweaked the support vamps to reduce the caps slightly, squeeze in some cheap aus by taking out FOR.

Crypt changes:
-1 Pentweret 9 aus for obe OBF PRE SER Follower of Set:5
-1 Ogwon 7 for OBF PRE SER Follower of Set:5
+1 Ankh-sen-Sutekh 6 obf PRE SER Follower of Set:4 (+1 bleed)

-1 Abdelsobek 5 for nec obf pre ser Follower of Set:5
+1 Renenet 5 ser OBF PRE Follower of Set:4

-1 Frank Litzpar 5 ani for pot OBF !Nosferatu:4
+1 Raphael Catarari 5 aus pot tha OBF PRE !Nosferatu:4 (+1 bleed, weird blood special)

-1 Aaron Bathurst 4 for obf pot !Nosferatu:4
+1 Florentina Lengauer 4 aus OBF Malkavian:4


So now it looks like this...

Crypt (Capacity min=2 max=10 avg=6.17; 12 cards)
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1x Ankh-sen-Sutekh 6 obf PRE SER Follower of Set:4
1x Florentina Lengauer 4 aus OBF Malkavian:4
1x Lubomira Hradok 3 OBF !Nosferatu:5
1x Old Neddacka 2 obf !Nosferatu:4
1x Raphael Catarari 5 aus pot tha OBF PRE !Nosferatu:4
1x Renenet 5 ser OBF PRE Follower of Set:4
4x Seterpenre 10 AUS NEC OBF PRE SER Follower of Set:5
1x Skidmark 5 aus pot FOR OBF !Nosferatu:4
1x Skulk 4 ani OBF !Nosferatu:5

Library (75 cards)
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Master (18 cards)
2x Dominate
6x Eternals of Sirius, The
2x Fortitude
1x Opium Den
1x Powerbase: Zürich
4x Using the Advantage
2x Wider View

Action (11 cards)
2x Dream World
4x Enchant Kindred
3x Govern the Unaligned
2x Scouting Mission

Equipment (1 cards)
1x Heart of Nizchetus

Action Modifier (20 cards)
1x Call of the Hungry Dead
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Elder Impersonation
2x Enkil Cog
2x Faceless Night
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
6x Freak Drive
2x Lost in Crowds
2x Veil the Legions

Reaction (18 cards)
2x Ecstasy
3x Eluding the Arms of Morpheus
1x Eyes of Argus
1x On the Qui Vive
4x Ophidian Gaze
4x Telepathic Counter
2x Telepathic Misdirection
1x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Combat (3 cards)
3x Behind You!

Combo (4 cards)
1x Spectral Divination
3x Swallowed by the Night

Created with Secret Library v0.9.4c. (Jun 3, 2015 18:55:37)
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