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Re: Little quiz

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:25
by Tobias
Andreas Nusser wrote:
Tobias wrote:I2. It's been a loooong, loong game.
Your prey has just acted really agressively against your grandprey,
hurting them lots and gaining the edge in the process. Your
grandprey's vision became clouded with red, and he went upstream,
burning all your prey's vampires in one fell swoop (except for one,
which he just sent to torpor). In the process, your prey played his
last card. No more cards in hand. And nothing else on the table.
Your turn comes up. You look over to the left, and you see he's only
got 7 pool left. And the Edge. Problem is: you only have 5 more cards
in hand. And one vampire. And nothing else. Solution: That vampire is
Gloria Giovanni, and you happily bleed with Govern the Unaligned,
Command of the Beast, and Conditioning - for 7.
Nobody plays a card. No-one blocks. But, somehow, your bleed fails.
How?
Tobias you have a lot of spare time for your quizes ;)

The solution is simple. Carlotta has only one blood!
Nah, just too much creativity on the brain.

Oh, and your 1-blood scenario is not the only option. There's also victorine lafourcade.

Re: Little quiz

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:28
by Andreas Nusser
Tobias wrote:
Nah, just too much creativity on the brain.

Oh, and your 1-blood scenario is not the only option. There's also victorine lafourcade.
My solution is the easiest solution!

Re: Little quiz

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:30
by Tobias
Andreas Nusser wrote:
Tobias wrote:
Nah, just too much creativity on the brain.

Oh, and your 1-blood scenario is not the only option. There's also victorine lafourcade.
My solution is the easiest solution!
True enough. But only because I forgot to mention Gloria was at full capacity... ;)

Hmmmm time for some new quiz questions... :)

T

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:33
by Tobias
the scavenger wrote:
Tobias wrote:Wouldn't the bleed with Alexandre be for 7? Thus making the total 37?
No, unfortunately Alexandra only has inferior Dominate.

sk.
Ah right.... I noticed that when I was building my own version, but forgot it again right away apparently.

If you relax all restrictions, would 37 still be the highest number, I wonder? I guess you could replace the art with another conditioning, and replace henry with an inner circle member to go up 1 more in my version. And you might get up to tricks with freak drives, conditioning and command the beast.

Soooo many heavy vampires, and they can only bleed for around 40 with 7 cards.... wimps.

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:42
by the scavenger
Tobias wrote:
the scavenger wrote:
Tobias wrote:Wouldn't the bleed with Alexandre be for 7? Thus making the total 37?
No, unfortunately Alexandra only has inferior Dominate.

sk.
Ah right.... I noticed that when I was building my own version, but forgot it again right away apparently.

If you relax all restrictions, would 37 still be the highest number, I wonder? I guess you could replace the art with another conditioning, and replace henry with an inner circle member to go up 1 more in my version. And you might get up to tricks with freak drives, conditioning and command the beast.
Actually you can do 37 even with the restrictions. It's rather simple:

Crypt:
Arika, Stanislava, Queen Anne, Democritus, Gustav Mallenhous and Spiridonas

Library:
Conditioning, Freak Drive, 5x Reinforcements

Each of the first five vampire bleeds with Conditioning, Freak Drives and Plays Reinforcements to take Conditioning and Freak Drive back into your hand (via library). Spiridonas simply bleeds with Conditioning and burns his blood.

Thats 6 + 6 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 10 = 37

sk.

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:53
by the scavenger
Tobias wrote:If you relax all restrictions, would 37 still be the highest number, I wonder?
No, following the same scheme as in the other post, you get 45:

Same crypt, library with Govern, Conditioning, FD and 4 Reinforcements.

Everyone bleeds with Govern and Conditioning, FD and Reinforcements from the first 4, Spiridonas finally simply bleeds.

Total: 8 + 8 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 8 = 45

sk.

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 14:56
by Tobias
the scavenger wrote:
Tobias wrote:If you relax all restrictions, would 37 still be the highest number, I wonder?
No, following the same scheme as in the other post, you get 45:

Same crypt, library with Govern, Conditioning, FD and 4 Reinforcements.

Everyone bleeds with Govern and Conditioning, FD and Reinforcements from the first 4, Spiridonas finally simply bleeds.

Total: 8 + 8 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 8 = 45

sk.
nice.

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 15:03
by Holger Christiansen
Of course you could argue that even with the restrictions you can get to a bleed of 43 if you think that you have at least one Govern in your Ash Heap..

The first bleed would be without Govern, but you could return one from your Ash Heap to your hand.. from there on, use the scheme you described.. ét voilá :)

EDIT: Even better than that because now you have a free slot in your hand and can pack another reinforcements there so that Spiridonas can use Govern and Conditioning as well, so the bleed would be for 46 :)

Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 15:14
by fleshcrafter
No, following the same scheme as in the other post, you get 45:

Same crypt, library with Govern, Conditioning, FD and 4 Reinforcements.

Everyone bleeds with Govern and Conditioning, FD and Reinforcements from the first 4, Spiridonas finally simply bleeds.

Total: 8 + 8 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 8 = 45

sk.
sk, you are an evil power bleeder.
Please remind me the next time that I dont want to be your prey ... Unless I have a hand full of deflections/misdirections :wink: (Small homage to our last league game :roll: )